AMD 64

[MegaDeath70]

I have a question about the AMD 64 chips. I have a guy wanting me to build him a system with the new 64 chip. But i do beleive you need to have a 64 bit opertaing system to do so. Is this true? If so what is available at this time? <br><br>Is it possible to run windows xp 2002 sp1 with it till a 64 bit operating system is available?<br><br>Any input is greatly appreciated. <!--EZCODE EMOTICON START :) --><img src=http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/smile.gif ALT=":)"><!--EZCODE EMOTICON END--> <p><!--EZCODE CENTER START--><div style="text-align:center"><!--EZCODE IMAGE START--><img src="http://www.limalan.org/images/Sigs/Mega ... <!--EZCODE IMAGE END--></div><!--EZCODE CENTER END--><!--EZCODE CENTER START--><div style="text-align:center"><!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong>"Come Get Some Dirty Old Men, If ya can hang !"</strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END--></div><!--EZCODE CENTER END--></p><i>Edited by: <A HREF=http://pub141.ezboard.com/bxmenclan.sho ... 0</A>&nbsp; <IMG HEIGHT=10 WIDTH=10 SRC="http://www.limalan.org/images/Sigs/Mega ... athgif.gif" BORDER=0> at: 2/4/04 3:39 pm<br></i>

[XMEN Gambit]

AMD's 64-bit chips are 32-bit compatible. So you could, I think, run 16-bit MS-DOS on 'em if you wanted to, or 32-bit Win2k, XP, etc.<br><br>But to utilize the 64-bit goodness, you'd need XP-64 or one of the variants of 64-bit linux (there are a few out there that work fine on the new chips). <br><br>I survived the 8-to-16 bit and 16-to-32 bit revolutions, but I expect this one to go easier than either of the others. At one point my dad had a DEC Rainbow at the office. This computer had a 8086 (or was it 80286?) for PC compatibility, and it also had a Z-80 processor (Think TRS-80) so it could run CP/M. <p><!--EZCODE IMAGE START--><img src="http://www.xmenclan.org/xmengambit.gif"/><!--EZCODE IMAGE END--><br>XMEN member<br>Card-carrying DTM<br>OKL Fish-napper<br><br>Though a program be but three lines long, someday it will have to be maintained.<br><!--EZCODE ITALIC START--><em> The Tao of Programming</em><!--EZCODE ITALIC END--></p><i></i>

[Variable]

Windows XP 64 bit software just got a beta release recently. The software is valid for 360 days, roughly the amount of time before they release the final product. I don't know if they're charging for it or liscensing it as a free beta, but its an option.<br><br>And like Gambino said, you can run anything on em, you just can't use all the rich goodness that 64bit chips offer.<br><br>If the link is still there the above info was headlining on www.hardocp.com recently. Go ahead and check it out. <p><!--EZCODE CENTER START--><div style="text-align:center"><!--EZCODE IMAGE START--><img src="http://www.ryanaaron.com/dtm/images/ava ... riable.gif" style="border:0;"/><!--EZCODE IMAGE END--></div><!--EZCODE CENTER END--><br><!--EZCODE CENTER START--><div style="text-align:center">The world will not end in a blinding flash of light or virulent pestilence. It will end with me choking the life out of it with my bare hands.</div><!--EZCODE CENTER END--></p><i></i>

[MegaDeath70]

Ok guys....Thanks for the info, it is very much appreciated ! <!--EZCODE EMOTICON START ;) --><img src=http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/wink.gif ALT=";)"><!--EZCODE EMOTICON END--> <p><!--EZCODE CENTER START--><div style="text-align:center"><!--EZCODE IMAGE START--><img src="http://www.limalan.org/images/Sigs/Mega ... <!--EZCODE IMAGE END--></div><!--EZCODE CENTER END--><!--EZCODE CENTER START--><div style="text-align:center"><!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong>"Come Get Some Dirty Old Men, If ya can hang !"</strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END--></div><!--EZCODE CENTER END--></p><i></i>

[XMEN Gambit]

Here's the link to MS XP 64 info. Download or order a CD.<br><br><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/64bi ... <!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--> <p></p><i></i>

[XMEN Ashaman DTM]

Do you think MS rewrote all of XP (the parts that needed it anyways)? Or do you think they just changed the variable declarations to INT 64?<br><br><!--EZCODE EMOTICON START :D --><img src=http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/happy.gif ALT=":D"><!--EZCODE EMOTICON END--> <br><br> <p></p><i></i>

[XMEN Gambit]

Um, it would be a little more complicated. I've worked with thunking (it's a way to make stuff work on a wider architecture than designed) during the transition from win 3.1 to 95, and it's cranky at best. Not to mention which you've got to take advantage of the new registers, instructions, and whatnot.<br><br>And don't forget that funky Intel significant-byte arrangement. That can really throw you for a loop if you're not careful; I wonder how they implemented it in the new wider architecture?<br><br>(And yes, I know you were joking, hence the smiley, etc... <!--EZCODE EMOTICON START ;) --><img src=http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/wink.gif ALT=";)"><!--EZCODE EMOTICON END--> ) <p><!--EZCODE IMAGE START--><img src="http://www.xmenclan.org/xmengambit.gif"/><!--EZCODE IMAGE END--><br>XMEN member<br>Card-carrying DTM<br>OKL Fish-napper<br><br>Though a program be but three lines long, someday it will have to be maintained.<br><!--EZCODE ITALIC START--><em> The Tao of Programming</em><!--EZCODE ITALIC END--></p><i></i>

[XMEN Ashaman DTM]

ROFL!<br><br>Gambit, sometimes you crack me up!<br><br> <p></p><i></i>

[XMEN Ravok99]

Umm - *wipes his cover-alls* "I just pulled a Star-Trek Style Refit to Win XP. All it took was a replicator and some elbow grease and we shoved that new code in their real good.<br><br>"Yeap.. she'll burn some good 64-bit processing goodness now...<br><br>*The computer explodes*<br><br>"See? That was the best graphics explosion I have seen to date! Those gamer-types will LOVE this one!" <p>"Patience is a virtue ... for other people." -Ravok</p><i></i>