Q? Temps

Wanna understand E=mc2, English grammer, or maybe just build a computer? We can help!

Moderator: Moderators

Post Reply
Jester DTM
Inmate
Posts: 367
Joined: Fri Jun 08, 2001 2:34 pm

Q? Temps

Post by Jester DTM »

Ok, So I get this new case and Get all excited about my neato drop from 52C to 49C on average, and Then I upgrade my bios, And Now I am averaging 63C? WTF! When I am playing T2 it flirts with 70C for crying out loud. <p><table border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"><tr><td><a href="http://www.thzclan.com/cam" target="_blank"><img src="http://www.thzclan.com/cam/jester/thb_ccam.jpg" border="0"></a></td><td><img src="http://www.thzclan.com/kirabby/Eebay/spam.gif" align="middle"></td><td><b><a href="mailto:jester@thzclan.com">996</a></b><br><a href=http://www.thzclan.com>Cerberus of THZ*</a><br><a href=http://www.xmenclan.org>XMEN</a><br><b><a href=http://www.dragontalonmercs.com>Dragon Talon Merc</a> </b></td> <td> <img src="http://www.thzclan.com/jester/minime.jp ... </p><i></i>
User avatar
XMEN Iceman
Moderator
Posts: 2386
Joined: Thu Nov 18, 1999 1:25 pm

Re: Q? Temps

Post by XMEN Iceman »

It could be that the bios upgrade "fixed" or "broke" the program that was monitoring the temperature diodes.<br><br>Just a thought. <p><table border="0"><tr><td><embed align="left" src="http://www.thzclan.com/avatars/ezice.swf" menu="false" quality="high" bgcolor="#000000" width="217" height="166" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" pluginspage="http://www.macromedia.com/shockwave/dow ... <td><table border="0" style='Filter: Shadow(Color=#BB1403,Direction=255)'><tr><td><span class='usertitle'>XMEN Iceman [DTM]<br>Founder and Leader of the Base Tribes XMEN Clan<br>Proud member of the Dragon Talon Mercenaries teamplayers Guild<br>Citizen of New Fenecia<br><br>"You weren't much of a challenge" - T2 bot after killing Iceman<br><br>- click on avatar for links - no, not sausage links!</span></td></tr></table></td></tr></table></p><i></i>
User avatar
XMEN Gambit
Site Admin
Posts: 4122
Joined: Thu Nov 18, 1999 12:00 am

Re: Q? Temps

Post by XMEN Gambit »

It's also possible that the upgrade changed the way the temp is read - say, to account for the distance between the probe and the core.<br><br>To see if your monitoring sw matches what the bios thinks, leave your system idling in windows for a while to get the temp stable. Then reset it and check the temp in the bios itself, and it should be awfully close. If not, then you probably should reinstall your monitoring sw.<br> <p><!--EZCODE IMAGE START--><img src="http://www.xmenclan.org/xmengambit.gif"/><!--EZCODE IMAGE END--><br>XMEN member<br>Card-carrying DTM<br>OKL Fish-napper<br><br>Though a program be but three lines long, someday it will have to be maintained.<br><!--EZCODE ITALIC START--><em> The Tao of Programming</em><!--EZCODE ITALIC END--></p><i></i>
Image
Jester DTM
Inmate
Posts: 367
Joined: Fri Jun 08, 2001 2:34 pm

Re: Q? Temps

Post by Jester DTM »

I have the asus Ipanel which plugs directly into the mobo, and gives me the bios temp levels so i know the temp is correct. It just went up with the new bios :/ <p><table border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"><tr><td><a href="http://www.thzclan.com/cam" target="_blank"><img src="http://www.thzclan.com/cam/jester/thb_ccam.jpg" border="0"></a></td><td><img src="http://www.thzclan.com/kirabby/Eebay/spam.gif" align="middle"></td><td><b><a href="mailto:jester@thzclan.com">996</a></b><br><a href=http://www.thzclan.com>Cerberus of THZ*</a><br><a href=http://www.xmenclan.org>XMEN</a><br><b><a href=http://www.dragontalonmercs.com>Dragon Talon Merc</a> </b></td> <td> <img src="http://www.thzclan.com/jester/minime.jp ... </p><i></i>
XMEN Ashaman DTM
Inmate
Posts: 2369
Joined: Mon Oct 02, 2000 12:09 am
Location: Silverdale, WA

Re: Q? Temps

Post by XMEN Ashaman DTM »

Also note that if you idle your computer while in the BIOS, the temperature will keep rising and won't flatten out like it does in windows. The BIOS has no way to cut back on the CPU usage, so it uses the full CPU resources to display the BIOS info. Heh.<br><br>You're using the A7M266, right? If so, I'd go with what the BIOS says the temp is. And even 49 C seems awfully hot.<br><br> <p><br><img src=http://www.xmenclan.org/avatars/ashaman2.jpg width=150 align=left><br><left><a href=http://www.dragontalonmercs.com>Dragon Talon Mercenary</a><br><a href=http://www.xmenclan.org>Member of the XMEN</a><br>Have a Nice Day!<br><br>"Politics, war, martial arts;<br>these are tools to bend the <br>universe to your will."</left><br><br><br><p><i>Edited by: <a href=http://pub3.ezboard.com/uxmengambit.sho ... ge=EN>XMEN Gambit</a> <img src=http://www.xmenclan.org/images/x.gif> at: 7/14/02 8:16:26 pm</i></p></p><i></i>
User avatar
XMEN Gambit
Site Admin
Posts: 4122
Joined: Thu Nov 18, 1999 12:00 am

Re: Q? Temps

Post by XMEN Gambit »

Wonder if the new BIOS increased the core voltage? Jester, give us the current voltage readings on the CPU IO and CPU Core. <p><!--EZCODE IMAGE START--><img src="http://www.xmenclan.org/xmengambit.gif"/><!--EZCODE IMAGE END--><br>XMEN member<br>Card-carrying DTM<br>OKL Fish-napper<br><br>Though a program be but three lines long, someday it will have to be maintained.<br><!--EZCODE ITALIC START--><em> The Tao of Programming</em><!--EZCODE ITALIC END--></p><i></i>
Image
Jester DTM
Inmate
Posts: 367
Joined: Fri Jun 08, 2001 2:34 pm

Re: Q? Temps

Post by Jester DTM »

How do I find those, I looked and could only find the regular three voltage readings. <br><br>1.1 3.21 5.1 <p><table border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"><tr><td><a href="http://www.thzclan.com/cam" target="_blank"><img src="http://www.thzclan.com/cam/jester/thb_ccam.jpg" border="0"></a></td><td><img src="http://www.thzclan.com/kirabby/Eebay/spam.gif" align="middle"></td><td><b><a href="mailto:jester@thzclan.com">996</a></b><br><a href=http://www.thzclan.com>Cerberus of THZ*</a><br><a href=http://www.xmenclan.org>XMEN</a><br><b><a href=http://www.dragontalonmercs.com>Dragon Talon Merc</a> </b></td> <td> <img src="http://www.thzclan.com/jester/minime.jp ... </p><i></i>
User avatar
Spinning Hat
Inmate
Posts: 2564
Joined: Wed Jun 07, 2000 10:06 am
Location: Minneapolis, MN
Contact:

Re: Q? Temps

Post by Spinning Hat »

1.1 is your core voltage, 3.21 is your 3.3V reading, and the 5.1 is your 5V reading. <p><!--EZCODE CENTER START--><div style="text-align:center"><!--EZCODE FONT START--><span style="color:red;font-family:arial;font-size:xx-large;"><!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong>I HATE EZBOARD!!!</strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END--></span><!--EZCODE FONT END--></div><!--EZCODE CENTER END--></p><i></i>
Image
"Never, Never, Never quit." - Winston Churchill
"Men don't like to cuddle. They only cuddle if it leads to.. You know.. Lower cuddling." - Ray Romano
"Tell your wife that she looks pretty, even if she looks like a dump truck." - Ricky, age 10
XMEN Ashaman DTM
Inmate
Posts: 2369
Joined: Mon Oct 02, 2000 12:09 am
Location: Silverdale, WA

Re: Q? Temps

Post by XMEN Ashaman DTM »

You should have a 12V reading in there too.<br><br>You could probably just boot it from cold, and read the voltages then in the BIOS.<br><br>You should have +12V, +5V, +3.3V, and VCore.<br><br>You could load your copy of ASUS PCProbe from the MB drivers disk (or d'l a copy of it from ASUS's site). Or I could send you a copy of mine. That would work well for reading the temps and voltages.<br><br>Your VCore can't be changed on your MB (as far as I can remember), so you're probably stuck with it unless you can underclock your CPU a bit.<br><br> <p><br><img src=http://www.xmenclan.org/avatars/ashaman2.jpg width=150 align=left><br><left><a href=http://www.dragontalonmercs.com>Dragon Talon Mercenary</a><br><a href=http://www.xmenclan.org>Member of the XMEN</a><br>Have a Nice Day!<br><br>"Politics, war, martial arts;<br>these are tools to bend the <br>universe to your will."</left><br><br><br><p><i>Edited by: <a href=http://pub3.ezboard.com/uxmengambit.sho ... ge=EN>XMEN Gambit</a> <img src=http://www.xmenclan.org/images/x.gif> at: 7/14/02 8:16:26 pm</i></p></p><i></i>
User avatar
XMEN Gambit
Site Admin
Posts: 4122
Joined: Thu Nov 18, 1999 12:00 am

Re: Q? Temps

Post by XMEN Gambit »

Naw, the chip doesn't use 12V. That's for peripherals and cards. True, he should be able to find a reading for it somewhere, but I don't think that's central to our temperature anomaly investigation. <p><!--EZCODE IMAGE START--><img src="http://www.xmenclan.org/xmengambit.gif"/><!--EZCODE IMAGE END--><br>XMEN member<br>Card-carrying DTM<br>OKL Fish-napper<br><br>Though a program be but three lines long, someday it will have to be maintained.<br><!--EZCODE ITALIC START--><em> The Tao of Programming</em><!--EZCODE ITALIC END--></p><i></i>
Image
User avatar
Spinning Hat
Inmate
Posts: 2564
Joined: Wed Jun 07, 2000 10:06 am
Location: Minneapolis, MN
Contact:

Re: Q? Temps

Post by Spinning Hat »

don't forget about the -12V and the -5V readings as well, but I have no idea what those are used for.. <p><!--EZCODE CENTER START--><div style="text-align:center"><!--EZCODE FONT START--><span style="color:red;font-family:arial;font-size:xx-large;"><!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong>I HATE EZBOARD!!!</strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END--></span><!--EZCODE FONT END--></div><!--EZCODE CENTER END--></p><i></i>
Image
"Never, Never, Never quit." - Winston Churchill
"Men don't like to cuddle. They only cuddle if it leads to.. You know.. Lower cuddling." - Ray Romano
"Tell your wife that she looks pretty, even if she looks like a dump truck." - Ricky, age 10
Jester DTM
Inmate
Posts: 367
Joined: Fri Jun 08, 2001 2:34 pm

Re: Q? Temps

Post by Jester DTM »

i have all the twelve volt readings. - and + should I try to underclock to 1050? I can do that by switching to 100 instead of 133. <p><table border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"><tr><td><a href="http://www.thzclan.com/cam" target="_blank"><img src="http://www.thzclan.com/cam/jester/thb_ccam.jpg" border="0"></a></td><td><img src="http://www.thzclan.com/kirabby/Eebay/spam.gif" align="middle"></td><td><b><a href="mailto:jester@thzclan.com">996</a></b><br><a href=http://www.thzclan.com>Cerberus of THZ*</a><br><a href=http://www.xmenclan.org>XMEN</a><br><b><a href=http://www.dragontalonmercs.com>Dragon Talon Merc</a> </b></td> <td> <img src="http://www.thzclan.com/jester/minime.jp ... </p><i></i>
User avatar
Spinning Hat
Inmate
Posts: 2564
Joined: Wed Jun 07, 2000 10:06 am
Location: Minneapolis, MN
Contact:

Re: Q? Temps

Post by Spinning Hat »

It may help get that temp down. Are your fans all clean? Dusty fans really screw with your airflow. <p><!--EZCODE CENTER START--><div style="text-align:center"><!--EZCODE FONT START--><span style="color:red;font-family:arial;font-size:xx-large;"><!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong>I HATE EZBOARD!!!</strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END--></span><!--EZCODE FONT END--></div><!--EZCODE CENTER END--></p><i></i>
Image
"Never, Never, Never quit." - Winston Churchill
"Men don't like to cuddle. They only cuddle if it leads to.. You know.. Lower cuddling." - Ray Romano
"Tell your wife that she looks pretty, even if she looks like a dump truck." - Ricky, age 10
Jester DTM
Inmate
Posts: 367
Joined: Fri Jun 08, 2001 2:34 pm

Re: Q? Temps

Post by Jester DTM »

When I pop the side off, and stick my hand in there, it almost feels cold. The mobo temp average's 25C, I just think something is set wrong, and the cpu is cookin faster than it should be. <p><table border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"><tr><td><a href="http://www.thzclan.com/cam" target="_blank"><img src="http://www.thzclan.com/cam/jester/thb_ccam.jpg" border="0"></a></td><td><img src="http://www.thzclan.com/kirabby/Eebay/spam.gif" align="middle"></td><td><b><a href="mailto:jester@thzclan.com">996</a></b><br><a href=http://www.thzclan.com>Cerberus of THZ*</a><br><a href=http://www.xmenclan.org>XMEN</a><br><b><a href=http://www.dragontalonmercs.com>Dragon Talon Merc</a> </b></td> <td> <img src="http://www.thzclan.com/jester/minime.jp ... </p><i></i>
Post Reply